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 Scammer Beware ID 40475

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Author: Watt  (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   12-28-05 07:03

I have met this one personally.. Beware... part of a russian bride scam..She has been added before to the Scammers list and reported.

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Author: Frank  (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   12-28-05 15:25

another scammer to beware of 40182

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Author: Uri  (---.ontrca.adelphia.net)
Date:   12-29-05 19:08

Frank, thanks for the warnning, I just got an E-mail from her,it looks like a standart letter.can you tell me what did she do?---- 40182

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Author: Frank  (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   12-29-05 20:32

uri.
she will tell you to write her at her email address. after two or three letters someone writes you and tells you she does not have enough money for translations but you can send it western union but send it in her name. then write her back on new dating and recieve another letter like she doesnt know you and she will give you the same email address and tell you to write. .....hope that explains everything

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 Re: Scammer Beware ID 40475

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Author: Ayman  (---.tedata.net)
Date:   01-16-06 02:58

That's what I got when I first contacted a girl called Olga:


Dear Ayman,

I have got your letter for Olga and will go to her as soon as she gets up.

I would like to explain everything to you myself as I am Olga's interpreter and neighbour.

Well, let me introduce myself to you. I am Larisa Kurnos, I am 38 y.o. and I live just 2 floors upstairs away from Olga. I live with my daughter who is 11 and my mother who is 74. I work at a secondary school as an English teacher. You know that Ukraine is a very difficult country to live in. It is not America where people who are very industrious and want to work live well. I remember the time when we - teachers didn't get our salaries for 9 months. It was awful! I have been a teacher for 15 years but my salary is very small so I need to earn my extra money with translations and giving extra lessons to different people. I need it to feed my family. I am honest and you will not regret if you trust me.

I am telling these things to you in order to let you know who you will, probably, let help you and Olga in your communication.

I will translate and send your and Olga's letters as much as you need, even every day including sending her pictures to you and even helping you to talk to her over the telephone. One letter from you + her letter to you from her will cost 5 dollars(for everything). If you agree to pay me 100 dollars a month I will send the letters to you and translate your letters not depending on the number of the, even every day because Olga told me that she would like to write to you every day. In this case you will save your money. Olga doesn't have her own computer, so I will send all her letters to you.

Ayman, you should understand me in a right way, my work should be paid. I promise you to work very honestly and you will see that I deserve your trusting me. I have a friend in Texas. His name is Glenn Hill. His e-mail is:

Glenn <xxxglennhill@yahoo.com> and his cell phone is 7133052760

You may call him to ask anything about me. He was a man of my girlfriend and that was why I got to know him. I have known him for 4 years and you may write or call him to ask anything about me. I helped him very much and I saved him a lot of money when he came to Ukraine. He came here 9 times. I was honest to him and in spite of the fact that he didn't get married to my friend he is still my friend. As he was grateful to me he decided to give me a present and bought me the computer to give me a possibility to earn money working with it. I am grateful to him endlessly. Our internet connection is very slow and bad. It costs a lot of money. There is one rule connected with it: I have to pay for the internet in advance, so I would like to have the money for it in advance, too.

Ayman, I know Olga very well, she has been my neighbour since 1984 so she can talk to me openly, and it will help her to be open-minded with you. She is a very good girl. She is from a very good and calm family. I have never heard that somebody from their family cried at each other, never, they respect each other very much. When she saw your picture she didn't even have a doubt if to reply you or not, she told me that you had come into her heart from the first sight, she always dreamed to get married to an older and bigger than her man. She will reply you after her and my work if you agree to pay my work for you.

She asked me to put her profile into the internet to find a real man to her because she doesn't go anywhere where she can find him herself, she is modest and descent. If I had a son I would like to have such a daughter in law.

My dear friend (let me call you my friend), a lot of the girls want to live well without doing anything for it. I cannot understand it. I know that Olga isn't such a person. Believe me: she is a very shy, honest and reliable young lady. You will get a chance to get to know it yourself if you want. She isn't married yet, because she hates men who want to drink without working and don't know the word ''respect''. I want her to be happy, because she deserves it. Her family is very friendly. They are like one whole union, they are always ready to help each other in any trouble and to share any joy together. I could and can watch it. You will not regret that you have started communication with her. I am not kidding with you and I agree with that there are a lot of good people in the world and the only problem is how to meet them.

Ayman, I am divorced and I take care of my daughter and my mother who is an invalid, she is unable to walk now after the operation: they cut down almost the whole her foot, because of the diabet. My former husband didn't help me and doesn't help me at all, out law is helpless to make him do it.

My dear friend, if you decide to give me work and to use my service you may send me the money with Western Union on my name:

Larisa Kurnos

13/69,

Krasnoarmeyskaya str.,

Tsyurupinsk,

Kherson region,

Ukraine,

75100

I feel that you are a real gentleman and you will not cheat me. I sleep for 4-5 hours a day ( I work at school, give extra lessons, translate different texts for students,...) to earn some extra money to feed my family and to give my daughter all necessary things instead of her father, so every cent is very important to me. Nobody in our country cannot survive with the salary, I m mean ordinary people .

Ayman, if you ask me to teach Olga English I can do it.

I wish you all the best!

I will send you my picture in order to let you know who you are communicating with.

When you come here I can help you with everything if you ask me.

Best wishes to you!

I ask you to reply me.

Thank you for understanding me.




Yours faithfully,

Larisa

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 Re: Scammer Beware ID 40475

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Author: Ayman  (---.tedata.net)
Date:   01-16-06 03:24


I got email from this girl but this message was on top of the email page in hotmmail...

The sender of this message, yuliabreeze@rambler.ru, could not be verified by Sender ID. Learn more about Sender ID.

does that mean somebody is using this address other than the original sender or through services? this girl is a spammer..i found out that she asked me before to get money in another site few months ago then i stopped and to my surprise i found her emailing me again hehehe

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Author: Natalia  (---.236.sitel.com.ua)
Date:   01-16-06 22:16

Ayman, you've not provided with this girl's Id number (Olga). The e-mail you mentioned - yuliabreeze@rambler.ru is not registered with new-dating.com database. You are welcome to reply directly to admin's e-mail. Thank you for your time.

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Author: Ayman  (---.gega.net)
Date:   01-20-06 13:39

Natalia,

I'll do my home work checking scam replies and post it in scammers list cause this is the only way to eleminate the bad apples. I hope to find the time to do so, as currently I have tons of work on my disk.

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Author: Irina  (---.starlink.ru)
Date:   01-25-06 04:06

And nobody occurs an idea that it is meanness to publish personal letters of the woman. Even if it seems to you that she is wrong. Men, you consider it normally? All are really not consent with me?

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Author: Julia  (---.cosmostv.by)
Date:   02-02-06 15:25

I join to Irina, guys. Do you think that`s normal to publish here personal letters? If you want to tell another ones about scammers it will be enough to publish only that parts of their letters that include something suspicious. That practice of publishing personal letters create not the best impression of you and make you not the best reputation.

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Author: Blaine  (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date:   02-02-06 18:36

I think that names should not be mentioned necessarily,but this IS a forum,and it is a place for learning and exchanging ideas and information. In most cases,the letters shown ( if coming from an insincere woman or agency player) are "canned letters" sent to many men--not just one. This being the case,these letters actually belong to no one individual,but to the public domain. You are right,Irina in your previous statement about men who are players. Scamming takes at least 3 forms that I know of: professional daters ( lure different people to their country for vacations,money, presents,or sex--I think this is the real number one problem with internet dating),emotional vampires ( when another person gets too close they disappear,or pretend they are ending the relation because of a disagreement and move on to another untarnished or more financially appealing relation),and insincere people ( canned letters from money-makers working out of an agency or as part of a group of people who prey on a host) As I have written before in this forum,you do not have to go any further than your own native city to find insincere frauds. They come in the form of prostitutes,telephone sex,and fraudulent business offers. Please comment on my post. I would like to know what any of you think about this!!

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Author: Julia  (---.cosmostv.by)
Date:   02-03-06 13:27

Blaine, for such needs there`re special sites where scammers are blacklisted. Here one should firstly report about suspicious cases and as far as I know one should prove there that the case is really try to scam. And AFTER experts from sites about scammers admit that it`s scammer and probably publish these letters one has right to accuse the person in scam at other sites and publish letters.

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Author: Blaine  (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date:   02-04-06 07:27

Some ladies can have many vacations each year from men who come to see them in person. There is no site which lists them as "professional daters" or "vacationers". As far as I know--giving presents such as english lessons,flowers,money for the internet is not really considered a scam.It is the same for a divorced man who gives money to his ex-wife without a direct order from the courts. It is gifting,and cannot be counted as alimony. The scammers that are on the sites ask directly for money to heal their sickly parents,or more directly,for visa or airfare. I am not a scam buster--this is boring for me,as I have graduated from the "school of hard knocks" a long time ago. There are men who are so embarassed that they were easily taken advantage of--so embarassed that they do not report the fraud which would make them seem foolish. I personally do not like the term "scammer". Because whether the person,man or woman, is American,Egyptian,or Martian,it is all about deception. And deception has many faces!!

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Author: Irina  (---.starlink.ru)
Date:   02-06-06 00:09

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Author: James  (---.ks.ks.cox.net)
Date:   02-06-06 05:50

Blaine,

there are a lot of professional daters in Kiev.. and I am sure in Moscow, Riga, St. Pete, all those cities. I went to dinner with a girl in Kiev that had written me from a site. I had already had some pizza that night and wasn't really hungry, but went for the ride to see what would happen. This is just a little bit humorous, because I wanted to see what would happen. This girl makes almost no money from her work, but her hair is done for 2 hours a couple times a week , and her nails were unbelieveable and she told me that wasn't cheap. The restaurant was the most expensive in kiev I was told later , and the meal was about $200 . Then the casino and another $200 to watch her play blackjack , and then numerous drinks and affeciendosat the club . It turned out to be a very expensive night for something that I hadn't planned for. I know that she does this all the time, bc she just got back from Portugal, London, and who knows where else. I don't know that it is any different than a lot of women though. But she was for sure a professional dater. I think that is a problem that a person needs to know up front. I just think that some women just see dating as a business and very profitable with all the jewelry , nice dinners, etc.

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Author: Andy  (---.63-199-68.atginternet.com)
Date:   02-06-06 18:14

ever take a woman to Vegas, I would say it would be the same if you were
any where, in world they will take advantage, if you let it

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Author: Julia  (---.cosmostv.by)
Date:   02-06-06 23:41

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