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 Why most American men prefer very young women of age their daughters or grand

Profile		 Author: Nadya  (---.ukrlink.net.ua)
Date:   02-13-05 15:02

I would like to know American men’ opinion about this

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 Re: Why most American men prefer very young women of age their daughters or grand

Profile		 Author: Nadya  (---.ukrlink.net.ua)
Date:   02-13-05 15:06

or granddaughters from Russia and Ukraine? I know it is very seldom in the UK, France and other Europe countries

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Profile		 Author: James  (---.ma.dl.cox.net)
Date:   02-23-05 19:57

HI Nadya,

I don't think that it is a problem to date someone much younger. I make it a rule that I don't write someone 20 or so unless I am written to .. but I have received many letters from girls ages 18 and up and have responded with a return letter on occasion . So I determined that they don't mind being married or in a relations with an older man if they will write and make the intial contact and most guys don't say-- No, -- me included. But that is a good point as to why . Perhaps they think that an older guy has more maturity and life experiences.
And I must say that I have enjoyed getting to know them as well when I have met in person. But I don't think it is only Americans that understands this area of relationships.

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 Re: Why most American men prefer very young women of age their daughters or grand

Profile		 Author: Nadya  (---.ukrlink.net.ua)
Date:   02-24-05 08:13

Dear James, I know well, why young girls write more older men
(smile).You are naive, if you think they write, because an older guy
has more maturity and life experiences. Money and only money and wish
to get the best life! And very very seldom it is love(in case if this
girl not ordinary).But it is not interesting for me why Russian and
Ukrainians girls written more older men (I know why). I asked about
American men, why they make it. In my country only rich men marry
young girls and women, I know in America, too. I don't know any middle
American man(for example) 50 years who married middle American woman
20 years. I consider,it is well for meeting, but not for life. I have
such experience, too. The point is that I look and looked more younger
as my age. And I was married man younger me than 9 year for 10 year.
Our daughter is 12.5. And I can tell now- I don't want a young men
more. It is not interesting for me more. Life in the family -it is
not only sex. It is also understanding, friendship, chat, it is life
experience. And I had relations with men 54 and older. It is bad,too.
A man this age cannot good lover for younger woman ( money it is not
all, yet)only if he takes viagra. I have very many proposition from
men 28-35 year and sometimes younger. But I am a clever, good educated woman, and not stupid and crazy I don't answer them. I need man for my life a little older or a little younger as me, educated, active like me, with whom it will be interesting to speak, live, rest, make love.
I live in the centre of Kiev and very often see not young
Americans(who want to seem young near their girls, and belive me, it looks very funny) with very young Ukrainian girls. I repeat, it could be love sometimes. But what is this in most cases?
I would like to understand their philology.

Thank you everybody who will answer me. I am sorry , my English is not perfect, but I am only study English for 3 month in English courses.

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 Re: Why most American men prefer very young women of age their daughters or grand

Profile		 Author: Nadya  (---.ukrlink.net.ua)
Date:   02-25-05 03:07

Sorry I made mistake, not philology, and psychlogy

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 Re: Why most American men prefer very young women of age their daughters or grand

Profile		 Author: Paul  (---.ok.shawcable.net)
Date:   02-28-05 01:26

Hi Nadya,

I don't think its only some of the American men who enjoy the companionship of young women, even here in Canada it will happen, as well as many other parts of the world. But, in America there is hollywood and so much of life is all about putting on a show.
But I must confess I have a friend here in Canada who did just that. After splitting with his wife who was 20 years younger then him, he then goes and gets even a younger wife. Go figure.
Lets not forget some men have a big ego, they seem to think they are special when they appear in public with a very young wife. I'm sure there are some women who live in their ego's also.
Nadya, I can assure you that there are lots of men who prefer a woman of their own age, and its not just American men.
By the way Nadya, you are doing very well with your English. I want to congradulate you. Soon perhaps you will be teaching it I'm sure.
I think the word you mean is psychology, the science dealing with the mind and behavior.

Paul

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 Re: Why most American men prefer very young women of age their daughters or grand

Profile		 Author: Nadya  (---.ukrlink.net.ua)
Date:   03-01-05 11:18

Dear Paul , thank you for your mind.
I see, you know only one example in Canada when man is more older his
wife,I think, because it is very seldom. But Canadian men are more modest in their
wishes on this site and other sites, too, than Americans.
Now see, please, for example, profiles of American man of this site,
who older 40. One man of 56 years old from this site ( he writes
much on this forum about scammers) wants a girl or a woman till 35. And
there is very many such men here. These men like to speak about
scammers. But scammers were born by these old men,who want young
Russian and Ukrainian woman, because these men can't afford such women
in USA. Don't this men think that young women love them for
themselves? Don't this old men understand they buy Rus. and Ukr.
women? I think this old men want to be cheated, but don't want to see
it. Using poorness of my country( Ukraine) after Soviet Union, middle
and old Americans come to Ukraine and use our educated but poor young
girls and women.I can tell- it is big business in Ukraine now. But
why Americans so wonder, when young girl and women use them?

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Profile		 Author: Nadya  (---.ukrlink.net.ua)
Date:   03-01-05 12:02

I can tell more I am afraid of meeting such old and midle Americans, who try to have a young girls and woman , because I have a daughter 12.5 years. Where is garanty that such man living in my family will not try to entice my daughter? Our country haven't laws for it.

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Profile		 Author: James  (---.ma.dl.cox.net)
Date:   03-02-05 14:15

I do think that if you try to explain love , then you have a monumental task. It isn't only for money that girls will become associated with a man that is older. It is based upon the individual preference. Many would prefer that they have person of same age, but some ladies would rather be with a guy that is older. And it isn't only Ukranian girls from my experience, but many American girls will be married to older man 15-30 yrs older and that is acceptable , but not the rule. It is also acceptable for an older lady to be married to a younger guy. Some people can relate rather well to age differences.. some cannot. which shows that there is no unacceptable rule if there is an attraction and feelings. However it is only one opinion. Of course there can be the scammers girls, but generally I havn't noticed anything but genuineness from a Ukraine or Russian girl.

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Profile		 Author: James  (---.ppco.com)
Date:   04-12-05 19:34

It works both ways. I know someone in Tulsa - he (james) is now 23, and his girlfriend is 42, and she has an 18 year old daughter. Also, i get asked out by girls that are 20-21 in the USA, and i could not date them because of the age gap, though i look very young, i feel more comfortable with 10 year gap. Also, girls my own age in USA tell me i look to young to go out with them and they would feel uncomfortable. Its tough !!!!!!

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Profile		 Author: Leo  (---.pppoe.mtu-net.ru)
Date:   04-12-05 22:09

Hello Nadia
As well in Russia and the Ukrainia it is the same in many cases, I can go all
day about this it is a respect thing as well, younger women have more respect for a older man then a women his own age, I have helped many men find there secound half and most like a age difference or about 7 years.

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 Re: Why most American men prefer very young women of age their daughters or grand

Profile		 Author: Elena  (212.116.244.---)
Date:   04-22-05 19:25

Hello to everyone here!
I find this topic very interesting for many women and would like to say some words about it. I think there are two main reasons for choice young girls by old men:

1. Many of such men (if not only all!) would like to have in the future their own children, so they search for young, healthy girls and women for it. The younger girl the better for having future children.

2. Sexual attraction (libido) of many old men is second factor for such choice:
- if attraction of man to woman is small and tends to be smaller he looks young girls to keep and intensify it,
- if attraction of man to woman is big he looks young women for to have energetic lifestyle and sex with her.

I don't insist on my sentences and would be glad to hear any ones from men of that age.

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 Re: Why most American men prefer very young women of age their daughters or grand

Profile		 Author: Craig  (---.mars.centurytel.net)
Date:   04-23-05 18:16

Nadya,

I think your question is wrong..... It presuposes that MOST American men want not only younger women but radically younger...the age of their daughter. I think a lot of guys do enjoy dating younger women. I am one who does for the following reasons. 1) I am 40 but in great shape and most women will guess my age at the gym as 28-35. 2) I want a woman who has the same energy level as myself. Who enjoys working out and doing things like skiing, playing tennis, not just shopping. (Although I am a realist and understand that for women...shopping is an official sport!) 3) My children are very young....My daughter is 4. Most women my age have daughters who are 18 and already grown. I want to find someone who is attractive, energetic, athletic, enjoys having small kids perhaps even more kids... So that is commonly 23-33 years of age. (I did date a couple older and very attractive ladies from 44-51 but they all had kids 23-29 years old!) Needless to say I didnt have nearly as much in common with them.
I am just one American but that is my reasoning. God bless you,
Craig

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 Re: Why most American men prefer very young women of age their daughters or grand

Profile		 Author: Blaine  (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date:   04-23-05 22:06

I would like to answer you,Nadya. By the time women are 30 years of age,most have children,many have been divorced. It is different in America,but women from FSU often start the communications with men much older then themselves. A woman who had been divorced,especially if she has been divorced 2 times,often has emotional and trust issues. Also,if she has kids,she also has connection to her ex ( or exes) The appeal of a younger woman is the appeal to a fresh start, and family! Even if she has a child,if this child is not too old,a man has a good chance to win her and her mother`s heart,and to have a friendly,warm family. I do believe that if the age difference is too great,maybe 15 years or more,then there exists a generaton gap between the people. Also,men must consider that there is a good chance that he is going to leave this world sooner then her,or that she will turn into a "personal care assistant" at a time when she is still young and vital. I think that the young women should answer this question. Whenever I have asked,the answer was always age is not important. But I think a very young woman may have a different set of ideas,and values which do not agree with an older man. For example-a young woman in America reaches the age of 21,and she wants to party,drink,and explore sexual encounters. Her knowledge of life has only risen to the rank of high school or college. I realize that not all women fit my description,and I have been pleasantly surprised by women from FSU who were mature beyond their age,and definitely more so then the same age American woman. Also,Nadya--young boys are obviously vulnerable to abuse or sexual attack. All children should learn the warning signs,and be able to shout,scream,or fight off such an attack if they are able,and to learn when an embrace or a touch is inappropriate.

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 Re: Why most American men prefer very young women of age their daughters or grand

Profile		 Author: Nadya  (---.ukrlink.net.ua)
Date:   04-24-05 00:29

Thank you, everybody, who write here. Blaine, I like to read all what you have been writting on this forume. Sometimes I think you are not American. All your replies are wise and dip.
If you lived in my city and spoke Russian I would want to get your friendship.I think it will be hard for you to find woman like you. ( I am sorry about my primitive English, but I continue to study )
But I want to come back to this topic. I would like to read thoughts of old men,who want to get girls and women are younger of them for 18,20 and more years.I know there are a lot such men on this site.But I have still got replies only from normaly men, who want to get women with not such big age difference.

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Profile		 Author: Matthew  (69.84.115.---)
Date:   04-25-05 05:26

In my opinion i prefer European and Russian women because they are more mature , monogamous, family-oriented. (in general-not all but most). I find them more interesting and they seem to be more interested in you as a person not what material things you have, And again in general, their are always exceptions to the rule. Maybe i am biased because i have spend a lot of time in Europe and lived in Spain for 3 years. In general i think American women put family last after careers, lifestyle and having fun. I believe family should be first place in a serious relationship. European women tend to marry at a younger age than Americans. We also have a higher divorce rate?? The mix of cultures is good in my view--Its certainly more interesting for me:)) (they also know how to dress quite well and appear to be real women)

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Profile		 Author: Booz  (---.net81-64-140.noos.fr)
Date:   05-15-05 15:04

For the same raison than when you go to the market you choose the best fruits !

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Profile		 Author: Blaine  (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date:   05-16-05 00:59

Nadya-thanks for the kind words. It is true-I am different,and pride myself on being different than any man. I would love to have lunch and drinks with you in Kyiv. I am sure we would have many laughs and serious conversation too

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Profile		 Author: tann  (---.quantum.ru)
Date:   05-16-05 05:20

to Booz: So, you prefer immature fruits?
:)

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Profile		 Author: Nadya  (---.ukrlink.net.ua)
Date:   05-16-05 16:25

Bravo, Tanya. Your answer to Booz is very witty. I wanted to answer him, but you do this the first. Tanya, I like to read all what you are writting here on forum. Your English is perfect. I would like to invite you and Blaine(I think he is not ordinary thinking interesting man like you) to Kiev, my nice old Kiev.

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Profile		 Author: tann  (---.quantum.ru)
Date:   05-17-05 03:33

Nadya: to my great embarrasment, I've never been to Kiev but who knows... maybe one day... :)
Saying that my English is "perfect", you just develope my inferiority complex because I am normally stuck in an attempt to express all my thoughts :)

But of course, if my potential employer asks if I can read Shakespeare in the original, I will say: "Yes, every night before going to bed!"

;)

Thanks for your generous impulse!

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Profile		 Author: Kevin  (213.210.33.---)
Date:   05-17-05 13:56

Hi Nadya

I am english.
I think the answer is quite straight forward to your question..if a man wants to find partner to marry and have children it is obviously easier to find a woman who is single ,without children..these tend to be younger women as women in russia and ukraine have children earlier


Kevin

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Profile		 Author: Blaine  (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date:   05-17-05 15:20

Yes-maybe one day--tann and you Nadya,are very interesting,intelligent women,and I enjoy each word you write here--Tann-you have a delightful wit--do not eat the grapes until they are almost ready to fall from the vine!! I would like to know you better,just for fascinating conversation

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 Re: Why most American men prefer very young women of age their daughters or grand

Profile		 Author: Nadya  (---.ukrlink.net.ua)
Date:   05-18-05 00:18

Dear Kevin. I am not sure all men older 50 years who want to get 18-20 year women, want to have children from these women . Do you know many such men in UK?
When I had begun this topic, I was meaning age difference between a man and a woman more then 18-20 years .

Dear men, before to write reply to this topic , read, please, the
beginning this topic and written about subject of topic. Of course, you can written here, what you want, but it is my topic and I would like to get your thoughts, answers on my question.
Don't deviate from the subject, please.

Best regards Nadya

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 Re: Why most American men prefer very young women of age their daughters or grand

Profile		 Author: Blaine  (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date:   06-01-05 08:22

Nadya,I did as you have asked,and read from the beginning. I must tell you that you are doing very well with your english lessons!! You are "fishing " for more answers,and I hope you will get them. I think--as you also wrote-that much attraction is about chemistry. If it is only sex,then I believe that men are just as insincere as a woman who takes their money. It takes much time to build a relationship ( and only a moment to knock it down ). I agree with what you have mentioned--being able to talk,to work out difficulties,to let each other have different opinions without being angry. This kind of intimacy takes a very long time-not just weeks or months even. A man cannot have that without a long period of communication,and then going to meet a woman in her own country. Then possibly going again before making arrangements for her to come to a foreign country. It is ridiculous to think that young women are just falling all over each other to meet any man. It is what we call a "pipe dream". Women are of course looking for security and a cozy nest with good family!! Much of this search involves people with different maturity levels,and it seems to me that young women in the U.S. are also willing to have many experiences before settling down with one man. WHy you ask? Because men are in rut ( heat ) for the finest woman in the herd--just as women who will step on many men until they find the one best suitable for them. If this were not true,than young women of all countries would not parade themselves in sexy dress or spend 2 hours time making up their faces. It is a joke--but are you familiar with the animal called the baboon? The males attract to the female with the largest,reddest area around the rectum. It is like monkey make-up!!

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 Nadya, A question for you. Why do Russian women here prefer American men?

Profile		 Author: Brad  (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   06-03-05 03:05

Is it because of our sense of style? Our kind hearts? Our good looks? Or is it as you have suggested regardless of age they prefer us for our money? Isn't money a form of security? So, could it be security they lust for?

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Profile		 Author: Emmy  (---.pp.htv.fi)
Date:   06-03-05 12:10

hi nadia,

yes, it is true that some older men prefer a younger girlfriend/wife. i can't speak for them, but can only imagine that maybe they want someone who has not so much emotional baggage (you know bad experiences from previous relationships), therefore some can be naiive as well. some men can be superficial and only going for the looks (status value for themselves). who knows what men think.....i can only guess.


but it goes both ways....there is woman who date younger men as well....demi moore (in her 40's) & ashton kutcher (in his 20's)....but of course they are celebrities.

in my opinion, and i am sure many other women think this too...that women are more emotionally mature than men.....a man who is 10 years older might be at the same emotional level, or not....of course this is no stereotype, and positive exceptions are out there.

i also have a question and i am going to post it here soon....

have a great summer nadia :)

-emmy

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Profile		 Author: Jim  (---.sbtnvt.adelphia.net)
Date:   06-05-05 01:10

hello Nadya,

I must say I do not totally agree with your statement that older men need viagra to satisfy younger ladies.....please. You have watched too many cialis commercial, many men that are older have had very little change in their physical state since they were 18.

I believe some of the young ladies are looking for a good provider, others want a ticket out of Russia..... and there will be some that find a mature man more appealing.

Older men do not usually play games, are more serious and interested in the liittle things in life than a young buck might be..... some may understand what a woman wants better than their younger couterparts. I may be wrong, but I believe some if not all of these attributes can be of interest to younger woman or any woman.

I believe Emmy may also be right, men do not mature as fast as women. Some may think they do, but believe me it takes time to go through all the stages men experience as they become of legal drinking age, learn about and experience sex, and learn that a job is more than just beer money.

Well, enough said..... I am interested to hear what you all think.

Jim

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Profile		 Author: Blaine  (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date:   06-05-05 08:01

If you have a fat,nagging, aggressive and controlling "PMS" wife,then certainly you will not desireher as much. Maybe guys who have women like this must have viagra or ciallis so they can make druglove. I think many people who are not aroused by a particular woman might need some help--but maybe it is really "escape" that they need!! Run,man,run!

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Profile		 Author: Blaine  (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date:   06-05-05 08:49

I am sorry Nadya-we have gone off topic! I was reading from Emmy`s postings and thinking about this question of why men go for such younger women. I do believe that some if it is because of men who want to maintain an image of a woman,and if she does not meet that certain criteria ,his interests go astray.

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Profile		 Author: Emmy  (---.pp.htv.fi)
Date:   06-05-05 12:50

yes, older men might know better how to treat a woman, less selfish.....
more experience, and less "playing games". more comfortable with themselves, know what they want. it's all about the personality. but of course there can be positive exceptions with younger guys as well, but usually not so much.

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Profile		 Author: Nadya  (---.ukrlink.net.ua)
Date:   06-05-05 16:59

Dear Blaine,(your reply: 06-01-05 08:22 )Thanks you to tell me
compliment about my English, I only try learning one, I
continue to study English in the British council.
I don't know,if it is known you, that thousands of American men come to
Ukraine for meetings with Russian and Ukrainian girls. Here we call
such Americans as sex-tourists.My friends are running such Bride agency.
Coming to Ukraine or to Russia such Americans meet not one girl or woman.
they meet with 10-15 and more. Because it costs cheap for them.( you
know our country is poor). There are even a film about such sex-tourists, made in Hollywood.
Some American men come to spend every their vacation for such fun to Ukraine.
Blaine, you had written right in your reply: ,,It takes much time to build
a relationship ..... This kind of intimacy takes a very long time-not just weeks or months even. A man cannot have that without a long period of communication,and then going to meet a woman in her own country.
I agree with you, they come to Ukrane and meet many women without knowing of them.I cannot imagine myself, how I could meet 5-10 men every day,not known
them enough good. But Americans sex-tourists can do it, speaking about
looking for their soulmates, love and other.
I only add, I never go to meeting with such looking for their soulmates Americans sex-tourists,
(though I get many
invitations).I think it is not for decent women .I prefer other way, writting to men, choosing one man and meeting one man.

best regards Nadya

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Profile		 Author: Nadya  (---.ukrlink.net.ua)
Date:   06-05-05 17:44

Dear Jim, I only want to ask you personality. Are you looking for a future wife of age your daughter (18-20 year)?

Best regards,
Nadya

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 Re: Why most American men prefer very young women of age their daughters or grand

Profile		 Author: Nadya  (---.ukrlink.net.ua)
Date:   06-05-05 18:07

Dear Emmy, I am sorry for my questions. Do you have experience of
relationships with a men older 50 year old? Or do you only want to get
marry with a man older then 50 year? (I remember for all readers of
this topic- Emmy is 28, he has never been married.) Because in my
topic I am meaning age difference between a man and a woman more then
18-20 years.
Best regards,
Nadya

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 Re: Why most American men prefer very young women of age their daughters or grand

Profile		 Author: Jim  (---.sbtnvt.adelphia.net)
Date:   06-05-05 23:21

Nadya,

No, I do not look for someone my daughter's age, what would we have in
common? I believe someone 10 years younger would and could be quite compatible...... but, if I can find a woman my age that see's life in a similar fashion as I, then we might be made for each other.

Age is more than just a number, it is a view of life and a way of living.... as a person matures they acquire ideas and build the basis of their personalitites..... so as we get older, many of us loose that mental flexibility that is associated with youth.

but, to get back on tract with your question, why would a man in his 50's want to pair up with a girl that is 20 ? god only knows.

Jim

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Profile		 Author: Geoff Burmeister  (---.is.co.za)
Date:   06-15-05 23:20

I must agree with Kevin and possibly this will answer some of the other questions, unfortunatly it relates to my life which has been travelling around the world so I eventually got married, late in life and the age gap was 11 years she had 2 kids but wanted a 3rd - I have none, I then landed up with a girl 15 years younger divorced 3 times no kinds came from an abused background on all accounts also felt she wanted kids, but it did not work out so as a result I landed on these sites, now you see my age and I have no family but would love to have a family so I have no option but to look for some one around 36 to 45 who possibly has no children and also wants. So I think maybe there are some men in my situation who have no option and are not trying to boost their egos.

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Profile		 Author: Anna  (---.adsl.wplus.ru)
Date:   06-28-05 16:40

dear Nadia))) it is funny question

I think all men like young women - russian too)) but they cant let it in their country - I dont think young american women look at them. so american men r looking in russia becouse they think russian women will be so happy 2 speak with american man and they dont care about age and yongh and body and so on....

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Profile		 Author: James  (---.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net)
Date:   06-29-05 03:13

I dont believe it is 1000's, there are some that do this, but there are other decent men that come there to meet just one girl.

I met an english guy called Justin (english guy) on London-Kyiv plane this month, and he had ukraine girlfriend for past 6-7 mths, and his bags were full of gifts for her and her family, and they see each other every 2 weeks, and she was their to meet him at the airport. So there are alot of men out there that come to ukraine and russia to meet one girl. Justin was 32, and his girlfriend elena was 25 and they met by writing to each other over 3-4 months.

There are also other american men that do meet 4-5 girls, but these men do choose 1 of these girls to settle down with.

Then there are some that want sex tours, and these are the ones that are in their 50's that want an 18-21 yr old girl to have casual relationship with.

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Profile		 Author: Liliya  (195.158.19.---)
Date:   06-29-05 11:41

hello to everyone.... :) I think only one reason when most men (not only American!!!!!) prefer very young women of age their daughters or grand.... this is just problem of age..... when they get younger women they imagine more younger himself and try to prove that else have it is enough power..... this problem of the mans of the more senior age.... Liliya

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Profile		 Author: Liliya  (195.158.19.---)
Date:   06-29-05 11:45

P.S. but they do not think that when got so young woman they get and a risk to meet scammer.....

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Profile		 Author: Anna  (---.pppoe.mtu-net.ru)
Date:   06-29-05 12:39

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Profile		 Author: Lance  (---.boeing.com)
Date:   07-01-05 21:46

Anna wrote:

> ??????? ???????! ..... ??????????.

Yes, Anna, you are correct. Many men can not read, nor do they want to read. They believe that their money and their passport are enough to win a woman's heart. Of course, we both know this is not true.

The only thing these men win is trouble. Yes, they DO win because their ARE women who only search for men with a foreign passport and a healthy bank balance.

Unfortunately, some of us want much more, but I believe that if a person is patient, they will find what they seek.

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Profile		 Author: JeffS  (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date:   07-03-05 02:16

I can answer that because they can't find woman in there own country. They are desperate to have a trophy (A YOUNG WIFE). Little do they know the marriage never lasts. So who gets the last laugh.

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Profile		 Author: Elena  (---.dialup.itte.kz)
Date:   07-24-05 15:07

Many things related with this topic become clear if to read "Lolita" of A. Nabokov.

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Profile		 Author: jbowe  (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   07-24-05 17:22

In the past two years I have been to both the Ukraine and Russian to meet ladies that I had met on line. I am 54 years old and have been divorced since I was 28. Its not a matter of how old a women is or how young as far as I am concerned as long as that women is compatable with my lifestyle. I hear over and over here that a man over 50 is old? Perhaps in Russia or the Ukaranine where a man doesn't have the oppertunities a man from the west has they are old. But that is because of circumstance and not because of age. And as far a libido is concerned a man in his 50's is not impudent by any stretch and most women in their 50's I have met could care one way or the other if they have a good sex life. All you have to do is read the profiles to see that and the way they always answer the question. The biggest problem I have found with women my age is they tend to have become jaded on life whether because of past relationships or life in general and I do not have the time nor the inclination to spend my life trying to correct or change a womens attitude because of what some other man has done in the past. IE: Baggage. But I am also realistic to understand that even if I were to find a younger women it would probably not be love in the beginning but more of an equal understanding that could eventually turn into love.

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Profile		 Author: Roy  (---.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
Date:   07-24-05 20:58

I agree somewhat with jbowe. Also the one major fact is that there are maybe 5 to 10 times more single young women than single older women. I also found that I get ten more responses from very young women. Age does not matter but baggage soem older women carry has also turned me off.
Also, would it be considered insensitive to have many email only romances since none seem to have telephones, chat or webcams. I have had a few get angry with me for having other email-only friends.. Well, I offered to call, use yahoo, msn messenger etc. Maybe these women need a cyber-commitment and email romance instead of making it more real.. On this point it seems the older women do usually find a phone in their country faster than the yong ones..

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Profile		 Author: jbowe  (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   07-24-05 22:31

It truely amazes me how so many men whether they are 20 or 50 can only express what they think the women wants to hear rather then the truth. I know a lot of men in their 50's that are either single or divorced and when we talk there isn't one of them that would't prefer a younger women to one his own age and that is because they don't want all the baggage that older women bring to a relationship. And the older women that say they have no baggage tend to be the ones with the most. And before you start questioning the motivation of older men read the adds from the younger women and you will find that most want someone that is wealthy or can give them security and a good life. That comes with time and hard work, not something that you usually find in a man in his 20's.

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Profile		 Author: Zhanna  (195.82.5.---)
Date:   07-24-05 23:11

I asked my American man why he doesn't want to find someone closer to his age (we have 18 years age gap) though I understand why of course. His answer was that he wants a young woman that will make him feel young, with whom he could have children (he doesn't have them yet) and so on. But I find it unfair towards women of 40-50. By the way, question to you, do you think about average life lenth and that women usually live longer? I asked him this question and the answer was: hmmm, you can remarry then. But who I will remarry if all the man of my age will prefer 20 years youger women :-)? (So you understand now why I worry so much about 40-50 y.o. single women :-))) ).

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Profile		 Author: jbowe  (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   07-24-05 23:23

Its a very fair question Zhanna that you ask and one that I have thought about myself many times if I should end up with a younger wife. I think each situation would be different and a lot of it would come down to how the wife were left financially if the man were to pass away while she was in her 40's. And of course how well the women keeps herself both physically and mentally. If you have a wonderful life with an older man then your not going to have adverse baggage latter on and thats important. If your with an older man and are not happy then you might have problems latter. So its something that has to be consider honestly and thoughtfully. I think one of the main problems with this whole system is that older women feel they have to compete with younger women and by virtue of their longer lives they should not do that. The other thing that hurts is when older women tell a man that sex is not important to them. I have never understood how an older women that says that to a man feels she has anything to offer. If an older man wants just a companion he might as well move back home with his mother. Good luck to you.

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Profile		 Author: Liliya  (195.158.19.---)
Date:   07-25-05 09:26

dear Zanna, don't worry.... as you can see I am one of these women, here is a lot of young men who want to share his life with mature woman..... :) I have got a lot such letters each day, them age 20-40 !!! but..... I don't like young men, I no need to get else one son..... it is not my goal now....

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Profile		 Author: Blaine  (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date:   07-25-05 10:29

I look at each day,and hope there will be many,and know there is no guarantee. I try to find just one good thing about each day,and it is not always easy. Anything can happen. The 50 year old man may well out-live his 30 year old wife. Precious are the moments in life. Take each day and cherish it,even if you know it might be the last. Take each day with your loved one and make good memories which will last a lifetime. Everybody must pass on sometime. All good things do-even relationships.

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Profile		 Author: Blaine  (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date:   07-25-05 10:46

I think that somehow this mother/child connection may be what a man needs. A man who is close to the women in his family--mama,sister,daughter,niece,will be protective of them,and this is certainly a good attribute to have regarding a wife and family. I have a young man who works with me who is very mature. He has learned some hard lessons in his short life,and when he told me that he will always take care of his grandmother--that she will never struggle or even have to work,I felt quite proud of him. This is not something that every man has. It is a distinction of maturity and goodness to hold a mother in high esteem and respect. I was thinking of this when reading one of Roy`s postings about animalistic men. It goes back to how a young man is raised,and the values he has learned. Appreciation for women--or people other than himself. Decency and values seem to be thinning in so many people,but they have not completely disappeared yet.

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Profile		 Author: Elena  (---.dialup.itte.kz)
Date:   07-25-05 18:19

To jbowe: But more old women may give men of your age the baggage of love that more younger girls aren't able to give so they don't know in their years what is love!

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Profile		 Author: jbowe  (---.cwc.gci.net)
Date:   07-25-05 18:29

Elena, that may be so but then again it may not be. A man my age has to be realistic especially if he does find a younger women to understand that it may not last. But then there are no guarantees that someone older will last either. To say someone older can love more intensly then someone younger is not doing justice to a young women. Remember when you were young? You probably loved more intensly then you would now because you would not have all the hurt that usually goes along with life. But I do respect your opinion even if its not mine.

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Profile		 Author: Elena  (---.dialup.itte.kz)
Date:   07-25-05 18:49

But all that hurt me before learned me to love more now! Before love was only phisically process, but now, in my age, woman are able to love not only with body, but with all soul...

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Profile		 Author: jbowe  (---.cwc.gci.net)
Date:   07-25-05 19:06

Elena, this is no disrespect for the way you see yourself because I would never say anything to disrespect someone who believes in what they believe but you do sound like every wopmen I have met in their late 40's and 50's. A young women can love just as intensly as an older women can. The difference is that with young women they also bring something to a relationship that most older women don't and that is vitality and sexuality that most older women have either forgotten or given up on. Its a shame but its true. You just have to be honest with yourself and not try to hide behind words to flower the the truth. Sex may not be important in your relationship but to a man it may be. How would you handle that? I think to be honest that is one of the main reasons a man looks for a younger pertner and that is because to many women that are older tell them sex is not important to them. Just an observation Elena and not meant to be saying this is everyone.

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Profile		 Author: john  (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date:   07-25-05 20:02

Dorogaia Elena,
The website says on your profile "Married, with children", can this be correct?

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Profile		 Author: Elena  (---.dialup.itte.kz)
Date:   07-25-05 20:09

Yes, that's true. But why I haven't right to meet somebody right for me and be ever really happy? And I write here so I have my opinion on this things... Do you want to ban me?

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Profile		 Author: Elena  (---.dialup.itte.kz)
Date:   07-25-05 20:27

To jbowe: Tell me in private - what things young girls are able to make with men and then I promise to tell you (in private also) all other things.

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Profile		 Author: jbowe  (---.cwc.gci.net)
Date:   07-25-05 21:05

Curious about one thing Elena, your profile says your married and if that is true why would you even be at a site where people are looking for someone else? Is it because your not happy and perhaps some of what I am saying is true in your own life? Just curious

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Profile		 Author: Paul  (---.ok.shawcable.net)
Date:   07-25-05 22:12

Boys, that 'married' statement at Elena's profile is probably a typing mistake.

It seems we have wondered from the topic haven't we.

Elena, hang in, I'm sure Blaine will be back soon. He's probably got a hangover today. Or maybe he is downtown standing on his cabbage crate doing a little preaching.

Just kidding Blaine, I can imagine you are trying to make it through the work day since it is not easy with that high temperature you have. Speaking of which, don't the westerly winds start blowing around Sept 15 to cool things off? I'm hoping to be in that famous city called Vegas about then, you'll have to come over and we'll do some gambling. A friend of mine told me about a system called the 'Dutching' method. Its used to bet on horse's. A famous mobster developed it.

Elena, you have me very curious as to these things you talk about of how to make a man happy, will you tell me please? :-)

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Profile		 Author: Blaine  (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date:   07-26-05 00:49

Setting up my soapbox. I will search for the best love I can find,as Elena does. If I die tomorrow,I have died in the search. If I grow old and my manhood does not work anymore--let it be so. If I will never be loved again--that is the way it is meant to be. But I will never stop trying to find that ideal until time stops me. Being married does not mean being in love. They are not all-inclusive of each other. It is sad to me that a man and woman will stay in an unloving relationship just for the kids. Talk about wasted time!! I do not believe in adultery,but I also think love is often sexless. And that sex and love are confused for each other! Hey,it is just my opinion. I know that being sexually abused has nothing to do with love. It is a game of control. And casual sex is just **cking,not making love.

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Profile		 Author: James  (---.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net)
Date:   07-26-05 05:42

Yes i know of several relatives in England where they stay together just for the children, and then divorce when the kids go to college, and you are right blaine it is a waste of their lives, to be married to someone that they do not love.

Love is a wonderful thing when you find out, and when you do find it you should cherish it for all it is worth, and enjoy the moment and especially the feeling that goes with it.

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Profile		 Author: Blaine  (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date:   07-26-05 06:21

and when I was doing my best thinking today ( in the shower while singing) I remembered that you love a person only as much as you are able to--not a bit more. That is why it is hard to be in a relationship where two people have different levels of caring or love. One gives whole-heartedly and the other takes.

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Profile		 Author: Elena  (---.dialup.itte.kz)
Date:   07-29-05 19:34

To Paul: What special would you like to know? Let me know it and I will try to answer you.

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Profile		 Author: Elena  (---.dialup.itte.kz)
Date:   07-29-05 19:38

And your last pic was more interesting!:)

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Profile		 Author: Lance  (---.boeing.com)
Date:   08-02-05 21:43

I really wish these children would stop writing to me.

"Hello I have seen your questionnaire on a site of acquaintances and you have liked me. Clever and kind the man. To me like such men as you.
If you want to learn each other closer write to me on e-mail:"

I'm sorry, but if you are 23 years old, you are too young for me. Get some life experience. Grow up. Fall madly in love. Have your heart broken. See something that takes your breath away. Do something that scares the heck out of you. Learn something really difficult, simply because it challenges you. Eat something you can't name. Change your mind about something you have believed your entire life. Then, come see me.

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Profile		 Author: Zhanna  (195.82.4.---)
Date:   08-02-05 22:33

I and that American have the same age gap and he doesn't think that I am too young for him :-). Tastes differ, as well as needs. He needs someone who would be his "muse" as he says, someone who would inspire him. I need someone more mature, stable and experienced. But sometimes I feel that even he is not mature enough for me :-).

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Profile		 Author: Nadya  (---.ukrlink.net.ua)
Date:   08-02-05 23:08

Lance, don't hope, they will write you any way, until you change your
photo here and also on another sites. You look very well on your photo,
dream of any girl.
I understand you very well, because I have many such situations in
my really life (of course, not with girls)). It is more worth in really life
than in Internet. All my friends was laughing, when I told them my
stories, but I have no laugh. I can write a novel about it. And
possible I do it somewhere.
Lance, if you allow me, I copy your words and will send them to all young
men, who are writing me. Because you expressed my thoughts,too. And did
it very well and right. Any way I will be abble not to write better
than you.
best regards
Nadya

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Profile		 Author: Lance  (---.boeing.com)
Date:   08-03-05 00:04

Zhanna, I think you have a made a mistake with your english. Please let me help you. You should have written:

"He needs someone who would be his "Nurse" as he says" ;)

I'm sorry Zhanna, but 18 years is a little twisted, in my most humble opinion.

Dearest Nadya, thank you very much for your kind compliments. Copy anything I write, as you please. :)

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Profile		 Author: jbowe  (---.cwc.gci.net)
Date:   08-03-05 16:46

Lance I do not really agree with you about the 16 year difference being a bit twisted. Not all men experience the same kind of life experience's and each will find his nitch in different groups. I am not saying that every man that is older should run out and find a 20 year old girl; because that is a sure recipe for disaster but some men will find more in common with younger people then with those older. I personally spent 25 years working and playing with men half my age because of my profession. Thats 10 months of every year for 25 years. I find that I have much more in common with people in that age group then I do those my own age. That is no ones fault nor is it twisted. Its a reality of my life. I think that before you generalize you should take into consideration that not everyone will "always" fit into the same mold. That not only does the older men an injustice but it shows a very narrow attitude on life itself. Don't you just enjoy the way that we can agree to disagree in forums like this. Stephen

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Profile		 Author: stbert  (12.45.185.---)
Date:   08-07-05 01:01

i can't lie. there is nothing better than a nice firm body and tight little package. young girls just feel good.
come on will someone give me an AMEN.

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Profile		 Author: Philippe  (81.185.34.---)
Date:   08-08-05 19:06

...or maybe they do not know the quality of the fruit, like the bananas fresh outside and not so fresh inside !..

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Profile		 Author: Kimberly  (---.insight.res.rr.com)
Date:   08-08-05 21:37

It's pretty simple really. Most men like to be with someone they are more worldly than. Women their own age don't take their crap. To put it bluntly. It's mostly ego. We know what part of the body that men think with when it comes to women. What they don't think about is 20 to 25 years down the road. Now here is this once middle aged man who is now pushing 60 or 65, gut sticking out somewhat, hair growing out his nose and ears with big bushy eyebrows (yeah, I know it sounds gross, but look at some old men will you), what then. Your young pretty tight body girl is now middle aged. Does she still look the same? Don't think so. She is still young enough to go rock climbing. Will you be up to it? Don't think so. Yes I hear what you say. You don't plan to become a couch potato when you grow older. You always plan to exercise and stay fit. Please, give me a dollar for everyone that said that at one time. Would be a rich woman by far.

Heaven forbid, what if something happens to you guys and you end up in a wheelchair? You think this middle age woman will want to stay with you and take care of you? Unless your loaded and you let her spend your money freely and put no restrictions on her to come and go as she pleases, doubt it. Do you think that if you had a woman close to your own age that she would stick by you and continue to love and take care of you? More than likely yes, I think so.

There is so much more to look at than the here and now. The immediate might be fun, exciting, and so forth. Sorry guys, but many women who I know say that you mostly think with your lower part. And that is what leads you to trouble ultimately. Yes, I know. Live for the moment. There may not be a tomorrow. But then again there may be. And will you be there alone or with someone who loves you?

Kim

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Profile		 Author: Nadya  (---.ukrlink.net.ua)
Date:   08-08-05 22:56

Thank you, Kim. It was very interesting to know opinion of an American woman about this sybject .

Nadya

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Profile		 Author: Elena  (---.dialup.itte.kz)
Date:   08-09-05 00:56

It's really perfect, Kim! Your comment sounds clever, honest, witty, not bored and very true. It's impossible to say better!:))

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Profile		 Author: Kimberly  (---.insight.res.rr.com)
Date:   08-09-05 08:57

Thank you Nadya and Elena. I tend to be blunt. (smiling) And all in honesty, I didn't say all that to upset any of the men and put them down. This is how I truly feel. And I believe with all my heart that in many many many cases, what I said is never thought about.

I would not like to date and/or marry someone 10 or more years younger than me. I am raising one boy right now. My son (13). I sure don't want to have to raise another. Women often joke among themselves that they should get a young man and raise him they way they want. Although 90% of the time it is only a joke. Buy hey, not me. No way. Give me a man who is close to my own age/maturity level, has things in common with me, and will grow old with me at the same pace. The more years of age difference, the greater chance of disaster and some point in time.

Thanks for the comments ladies. Never hesitate to write me. I love to make new friends and chat. There are some things you just want to discuss with another lady.

Kim

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Profile		 Author: Gabriel Magana  (---.dsl.anhm01.pacbell.net)
Date:   08-09-05 19:38

Hey Kim (may I call you Kim, by the way?), there are a couple of very strong women in my family who think very much like you. As I read your messages I think to myself, now where have I heard that before? It's quite refreshoing to see someone here say it!

In response to your comment: That's part of the problem, the maturity level... Do we men ever become mature? I think we are too primitive mentally to measure up to women maturity-wise. Sometimes I think I just have to roll with the punches and wait to meet someone that does not expect behavior perfection from me. Try as I might, I screw up once in a while, specially in situations that require maturity (for example, I recognize that I don't accept when I am lost and I hate to ask for directions).

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Profile		 Author: Astila  (---.228.249.7.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net)
Date:   08-11-05 08:12

"Author: Lance (---.boeing.com)
Date: 08-02-05 21:43

I really wish these children would stop writing to me.

I'm sorry, but if you are 23 years old, you are too young for me. Get some life experience. Grow up. Fall madly in love. Have your heart broken. See something that takes your breath away. Do something that scares the heck out of you. Learn something really difficult, simply because it challenges you. Eat something you can't name. Change your mind about something you have believed your entire life. Then, come see me."


Hello, Lance!
Your words are really beautiful and right...but why you need somebody (the girl) to be experienced..Don’t you want to have all such experiences, challenges etc. with her?
I think, it is not about experiences or age; it is about sympathy, desire and love. If you really like a girl, it will not matter what she is, you just will want share with her all together. I mean your life, experiences, challenges etc.
Am I right?

Astila

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Profile		 Author: Kimberly  (---.insight.res.rr.com)
Date:   08-11-05 12:07

Hey Gabriel,

Of course you can call me Kim. If anyone calls me Kimberly, I might look around and see who they are talking to. Not sure the last time anyone called me Kimberly. (smiling)

There is so much involved with maturity level. How a person is raised. Where they were raised. Social status, financial status, education, bla bla bla. I certainly understand what you are saying. I'm very glad for the women in your family who say what they think. I'm really not as bad as some people I know. I try to know the time and place to say certain things. Common sense. But at this site there is no reason to sugar coat it. And I am not out to hurt anyone's feelings. I would like to think that people who post questions here are looking for honest opinions and worldwide views.

As much as I would love to meet someone and maybe be lucky enough to begin a wonderful relationship either near or far, I have to be myself. I am not going to say things I think some men on this site want to hear or sugar coat everything just to meet someone. Some people do that. Eventually the true personality will come out.

Yes you are so right. Men and women have always been different. They use different parts of their brain. They think differently. I thought my ex-husband went brain dead when we got married. He was very smart and self-sufficient when we dated. Once we was married he didn't know how to do anything and could never find anything. I began to wonder if when we got our marriage certificate, if he had to make some kind of trade. His brain for the piece of paper. (laughing) That is also what makes men and women so good. Hopefully, they compliment each other. What one may be weak in, the other is strong. And vice versa.

Kim

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 Re: Why most American men prefer very young women of age their daughters or grand

Profile		 Author: Lance  (---.seattle-09-10rs.wa.dial-access.att.net)
Date:   08-11-05 15:42

Astila, thank you for your kind words. Yes, we all want to share life's experiences with another. The problem is that when you are very young, and have so few experiences in life, it is difficult to appreciate new things. It is difficult to understand what it is important, and what is not. Things that made me happy when I was 23, now bore me. Things that I thought boring at age 23 now make me really happy. It takes some time and experience in life to understand this. Look, all of life is an adventure. You do not stop because you reach a certain age. Well, I do not plan to stop!! :)

I simply want to find someone who can appreciate everything, the large things and the small things too - a trip to Paris or an excursion to an alpine meadow.

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 Re: Why most American men prefer very young women of age their daughters or g

Profile		 Author: tann  (---.quantum.ru)
Date:   08-11-05 17:01

Lance wrote:

> "I'm sorry, but if you are 23 years old, you are too young for me. Get some life experience. Grow up. Fall madly in love. Have your heart broken. See something that takes your breath away. Do something that scares the heck out of you. Learn something really difficult, simply because it challenges you. Eat something you can't name. Change your mind about something you have believed your entire life. Then, come see me."

By the way a very worthy point, I also paid attention on that. That one who passed through the pain himself, will be more careful with others. They will value relations more, will be more patient and wise. Blaine already said once that a scammer thing - it is an experience, when you pass through all this mess and meet a sincere person, you understand how true is your relationship. Everything is in comparison actually.

:)

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 Re: Why most American men prefer very young women of age their daughters or grand

Profile		 Author: Astila  (---.228.249.252.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net)
Date:   08-11-05 20:07

I'm sorry, but I thought we are talking here about love......and you guys don't talk about love and desire....you talk about appreciation and commodities.
But the truth is you, probably don't know what is the real love or you are afraid to love, because it hurts sometimes very badly. And like I said already if you really in love, you don't care about appreciation or age or experiences.....you just give your love and everything you have (care, experiences, money etc.)

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 Re: Why most American men prefer very young women of age their daughters or grand

Profile		 Author: Astila  (---.228.249.252.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net)
Date:   08-11-05 20:26

Yes, I forgot something else...))) Thank God, the things that mad me happy when I was 23 and 20 still make me happy sometimes and plus I have new experiences and happiness from my age...))))
But I want keep the youngest part of me forever and I know I will, if not the life will be boring.
It is just my opinion)))))

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 Re: Why most American men prefer very young women of age their daughters or grand

Profile		 Author: Lance  (---.boeing.com)
Date:   08-11-05 21:15

Commodities? Did I miss that in the thread somewhere? I can only guess you misunderstood some of my words. Let me be more exact. I will guess that when you read "appreciate" you thought:

"To be thankful or show gratitude for:" Yes, Astila, you can appreciate a commodity.

However, there 4 other definitions for the word appreciate. I meant:

"To recognize the quality, significance, or magnitude of:"

or

"To be fully aware of or sensitive to; realize:"

My point was/is, the more you experience in life, the more you can be aware of, and to recognize the significance of both large and small events in your life. That's all. Nothing about commodities here. :) I probably wasn't very clear when I wrote that.

hmmm.....I think someone should start a thread about idioms, slang and communication......

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 Re: Why most American men prefer very young women of age their daughters or grand

Profile		 Author: Astila  (---.228.249.21.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net)
Date:   08-11-05 21:42

Yes, it's right. I understood you very well. I just expressed my opinion that way (by adding the word “commodities”), because I felt like that.)))
It is very icy anyway Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr......

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 Re: Why most American men prefer very young women of age their daughters or grand

Profile		 Author: Blaine  (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date:   08-12-05 05:29

I doubt a 24 year old woman can meet the same level of life experiences as a man who is 40--unless he has lived at home with mommy all his life. Or she was raised by a street gang.

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 Re: Why most American men prefer very young women of age their daughters or grand

Profile		 Author: Blaine  (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date:   08-12-05 09:27

Yeah--love and pain. So closely connected. It is why laughing and crying have such similiar sounds. I remember sliding on a very steep and snowy hill when I was a kid. I flew into very hard snow and bloodied my face. I was crying at the bottom of the hill,and my brother was laughing so much that I wanted to kill him. He said he thought I was laughing too!! The balance of good and evil is like joy and sadness. How would we be able to tell one from the other without experiencing both? What concept of light could we have without the darkness to divide our thought? How would we know the pain of being untrue to a woman unless we were cheated on also? How would we learn to respect somebody unless we were given disrespect? How would we gain the lesson about deception and theft unless we are lied to,and something precious stolen? Love is not like a block of commodity cheese ( I am sure Astila just picked the wrong word and has one in Russian that works better) it is not something we gather or collect like mushrooms in an old apple orchard. It is something learned,a self-perspective gained from years of experience,and many injured emotions,healings and scars. And even though it may be given to you,it is not a permanent attachment which belongs to you. It must be given,just as it was given to you. It is like the horse which runs to the rest of the herd.

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 Re: Why most American men prefer very young women of age their daughters or g

Profile		 Author: tann  (---.quantum.ru)
Date:   08-12-05 12:47

Interesting example. At the age of kid he laughs, at the age of youth he feels neutral, at the age of old he shares in pain. It normally goes this way through own experience.

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 Cows, Constitution, and Commandments

Profile		 Author: Paul  (---.ok.shawcable.net)
Date:   08-12-05 20:46

COWS

" Is it just me, or does anyone else find it amazing that our government can track a cow born in Canada almost three years ago, right to the stall where she sleeps in the state of Washington and they tracked her calves to their stalls. But they are unable to locate 11 million illegal aliens wandering around our country. Maybe we should give them all a cow."


CONSTITUTION "They keep talking about drafting a Constitution for Iraq. Why don't we just give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys, it's worked for over 200 years and we're not using it anymore."


TEN COMMANDMENTS " The real reason that we can't have the Ten Commandments in a Courthouse? You cannot post "Thou Shalt Not Steal," "Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery" and "Thou Shall Not Lie" in a building full of lawyers, judges and politicians! It creates a hostile work environment! "


And Last but not least..... George CARLIN said it best about Martha Stewart .. "Boy, I feel a lot safer now that she's behind bars. O.J. Simpson, Kobe Bryant and Michael Jackson are still walking around; Osama Bin Laden,too. But they take the one woman in America willing to cook, clean, and work in the yard, and haul her off to jail."

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 Re: Why most American men prefer very young women of age their daughters or grand

Profile		 Author: Paul  (---.ok.shawcable.net)
Date:   08-12-05 20:48

ooops, sorry, this was supposed to be a new topic, I thought we were due for a joke. :-)

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